Is it realistic to have any kind of 'vision' beyond whatever and a home-based future?

Maintain, any collective considerations are being battered out of us. What little remains, trampled on, with decreasing numbers giving-up or concluding don't-look despair.

Pure/impure 'Illuminati' -- that misunderstood, overused tag -- manipulating our psychology warfare.

First, an oh-natural overview:

Best moves within our limited sphere of influence and say health and wealth. Could be about God and transformation. Seek improvements to life but moderate and manageable. All on the sensible, considering the risks and brevity of life.

Knowing our will and the effort needed, takes all we have, for anything but upping the comfort. Bit of career opportunities and education might be in order. Care about the children or other close folks.

All the while a few, or ample, slots to kick-back put feet up and, you know... blardy blardy blar.

Remember those lines in 'Jackie Brown'?

"I'm serious, you smoke too much of that shit. That shit robs you of your ambition." // "Not if your ambition is to get high and watch TV."

Vision eh... as in hope-for, let alone expectation, and something to happen. Something good. Better and without the new world disorder slamming our assume entitled normality.

Go wider:

Could be an us and a couple, or local church and/or small connected-up group of tight friends?

Yet, to look for say, national or regional improvements is a wobble of a position to hold.

See a let off from the troublesome looking slow but sure decline in social well-being looks set. Suggest the contrary, sounds silly -- or wistful, and blindness come ignorance. The new-age utopian or it's all another reality maaann anyway, are growing in pop. alternatives.

On for a turnaround and this because... is a struggle and a half.

Back to the prophetic on the dynamic and open -and- not, the closed future, "end-times" sacrosanct tip?

Fair to say the quandary and being an end-timer is quite astonishing dissonance. In some ways, admire the fortitude in the face of this theological lens. A bit like those who believe all but being 'born again' is never ending pain post-death. More about questions of consistency.

"Getting side-tracked, getting sidetracked".

Was listening to C.W. Chanter and his last comment/recent vid. was about the inconsistency. His assumption.

Suppose it does fit and Vision.

Talked about inter-faith chatting evangelicals -yet- they believe in eternal conscious punishment.

This c/o Plato, on to Augustine, through to Calvin, by the way. We are 'eternal' so cannot end, so they claimeth.

Think of Leonard Ravenhill, whom I much respect but disagree on this hell-fires alive forever point. Quotes a story of infamous Charlie Peace walking to the gallows. Churchman in auto-condemnation mode says:

"You will be eternally dying and yet never know the relief that death brings?"

Charlie's last words:

"Sir, if I believed what you and the church of God say that you believe, even if England were covered with broken glass from coast to coast, I would walk over it, if need be, on hands and knees and think it worthwhile living, just to save one soul from an eternal hell like that."

Moving on and from what-then -- and my urgent concern for one and all but Christ.

While this, one and able, in the wideness of mercy and who knows, our knowing, what. Saved from final destruction and anguish at loss and consciousness ending.

Are we naked or clothed? This a wonder. Clothes that cover and shouldn't so, deceive and leave lost, and without. Or; Clothed in Christ. The pressing into and onto, the one and all lover of us, for real and personal.

Should we dream of better here-living and:

Thy reign come: Thy will come to pass, as in heaven also on the earth.

One to mull, but gotta go/me and do practical -- this another? -- duties:

Catastrophic and megalomaniac and monstrous mess, all lead to hopelessness.

Seems every smart yapper is up for telling us, the change, is... us. We do and next one does and so it goes, so it goes.

What saith oh Bible-talking line?

Yee -and- no. The verse about vision and naked is a reference to getting the words from the ol'Bible in us. Thereby helping us live up and even might hear God encourage that when there's so little going for...

God can do.

Mission impossible. To finish, go with the title of book and Ravenhill quote. The Bible-crying answer and question:

'Why Revival Tarries'.

True myths and dreams.